Play-Offs

This topic has probably been raised before, but I cant see it so here goes...

I just looked at practically every table (yes I was that bored) and the league is pretty much done and dusted by early May, with no football for most bar friendlies until the end of August.

Would it not be a good idea to introduce play offs to the leagues. I am sure 1st and 2nd are guaranteed promotion in each league, but why not offer 3rd through 6th the chance of promotion with an end of season play offs? It will give all those teams with seemingly little to play for the chance to go for something and could throw up some fantastic games.

Lots of time to get the extra three games in at the start of May, extra finances for the Alliance and clubs and a real motivator for some of those teams who might feel they dont have a chance of winning the league or coming runner up? Seems like a win win win for me?

Discuss....

Would be a great to see if the league decided to do this but I highly doubt it. Plus promotion means nothing anymore with the amount of league changes that are made each season

791 wrote:

Would be a great to see if the league decided to do this but I highly doubt it. Plus promotion means nothing anymore with the amount of league changes that are made each season

Not sure if it means "nothing" because it is a massive morale booster and looking at the leagues this season just gone the Alliance league got it pretty much spot on with teams in the right leagues etc...

Good call and it has been discussed before but the league is too fluid to make it work. Many new teams joining and others folding make a pre-summer promotion idea almost impossible. Also, would a club finishing outside the top 3 want to go up? I know I wouldn't. Also the seasons should generally be aimed to be finished by 1 may. And don't forget in other seasons there can be massive fixture backlogs

Maybe something to introduce to divs 5, 6 and 7 rather than the highers divs? I think most teams who can compete in 7 could compete in 6, and 6 in 5.

problem comes when you get in a position like Kajima and have to play a lot of games in the final month, then finish 3rd and have to go through a playoffs on top, plus pitch availability as you go into May gets more difficult. A harsher winter and all of sudden a lot of teams are playing a lot of games at the end of the season! not that i don't like the idea it'd just be difficult to incorperate - would be easier if teams were more stable, not folding at the end of season or mid-season, less new teams coming in etc.

Note: Kajima is purely an example, i am not saying i think they have been hard done by - it's just part and parcel of Sunday football and getting games in during a limited space of time

Polska legend II wrote:

Good call and it has been discussed before but the league is too fluid to make it work. Many new teams joining and others folding make a pre-summer promotion idea almost impossible. Also, would a club finishing outside the top 3 want to go up? I know I wouldn't. Also the seasons should generally be aimed to be finished by 1 may. And don't forget in other seasons there can be massive fixture backlogs

Sometimes you finish 4th and get pushed up, sorry, promoted, whether you like it or not without play offs!

Simply put enough teams have to "limp across the line" barely scrathcing 11 to finish with midweek fixtures etc... To then extend it further is just not feasible.
It's a nice idea but simply not doable, especially when you think this year was pretty good for postponements.

Fishandchips wrote:

problem comes when you get in a position like Kajima and have to play a lot of games in the final month, then finish 3rd and have to go through a playoffs on top, plus pitch availability as you go into May gets more difficult. A harsher winter and all of sudden a lot of teams are playing a lot of games at the end of the season! not that i don't like the idea it'd just be difficult to incorperate - would be easier if teams were more stable, not folding at the end of season or mid-season, less new teams coming in etc.

Note: Kajima is purely an example, i am not saying i think they have been hard done by - it's just part and parcel of Sunday football and getting games in during a limited space of time

Its the kids earning 10p a day, making our footballs i feel sorry for, not people who sit round all day doing nowt, and getting state handouts.

I love the idea just can't see how it would work in practice

Lack of pitches in May, team already struggling to fulfill fixtures, constitution changes too much from year to year due to new team/teams folding

Great idea tho

nobody has mentioned the cost as well. already a struggle.

one option is to do the play offs on 3g pitches i guess

my stance is that unless you finish in the top two who wants to go up not me for one

I don't see why team's wouldn't want to go up and play against stronger more competitive teams given the chance.

you dont deserve to basically

In a lot of divisions though the top 4/5 teams are probably as good as or better than the bottom 4/5 of the division above, or due to teams folding there are spaces.... the aim is to make the divisions as strong and compeitive as possible - if a team finishing 4/5 in the table is the strongest option and wouldn't be out of their depth i don't see why they wouldn't take the opportunity to step up.

Ramley_LBFC wrote:

This topic has probably been raised before, but I cant see it so here goes...

I just looked at practically every table (yes I was that bored) and the league is pretty much done and dusted by early May, with no football for most bar friendlies until the end of August.

Would it not be a good idea to introduce play offs to the leagues. I am sure 1st and 2nd are guaranteed promotion in each league, but why not offer 3rd through 6th the chance of promotion with an end of season play offs? It will give all those teams with seemingly little to play for the chance to go for something and could throw up some fantastic games.

Lots of time to get the extra three games in at the start of May, extra finances for the Alliance and clubs and a real motivator for some of those teams who might feel they dont have a chance of winning the league or coming runner up? Seems like a win win win for me?

Discuss....

the top 5 will be promoted from div 3 maybe even top 6, so who needs play offs, you dont earn promotion in the alliance like in other leagues, you just automatically get it if the league think you will cope, double promotions for virtually every league winner and some runners up last season, you could join the commitee though then you could become the only league winner not to get an automatic double promotion wink wink

another slanderous comment tommy and also incorrect. Are you struggling with the screw cap on your medication today?

rocket ledge wrote:

Ramley_LBFC wrote:

This topic has probably been raised before, but I cant see it so here goes...

I just looked at practically every table (yes I was that bored) and the league is pretty much done and dusted by early May, with no football for most bar friendlies until the end of August.

Would it not be a good idea to introduce play offs to the leagues. I am sure 1st and 2nd are guaranteed promotion in each league, but why not offer 3rd through 6th the chance of promotion with an end of season play offs? It will give all those teams with seemingly little to play for the chance to go for something and could throw up some fantastic games.

Lots of time to get the extra three games in at the start of May, extra finances for the Alliance and clubs and a real motivator for some of those teams who might feel they dont have a chance of winning the league or coming runner up? Seems like a win win win for me?

Discuss....

the top 5 will be promoted from div 3 maybe even top 6, so who needs play offs, you dont earn promotion in the alliance like in other leagues, you just automatically get it if the league think you will cope, double promotions for virtually every league winner and some runners up last season, you could join the commitee though then you could become the only league winner not to get an automatic double promotion wink wink

Maybe clubs would ‘earn’ a promotion if teams didn’t fold? The only reason the league will have to bump a variety of teams up through the divisions is because there is a void left by teams folding. If there were never any withdrawals from the league then you would find teams promoted and relegated in a more uniform manner. Its easy to blame the league for the changes in the structure, but teams have to take a long hard look at themselves, so many teams set themselves up with no clear long term plan and then fold after a couple of seasons, how on earth can the league legislate for teams folding. Players and managers need to look at themselves first.

Anyway Tommy, on a separate issue, good luck with Saff, read one of your posts about you may fold…hopefully this wont happen.

Widds wrote:

another slanderous comment tommy and also incorrect. Are you struggling with the screw cap on your medication today?

I think tommy needs an exorcism....he appears to be possessed by tommy.

so to recap, play offs are not viable in this level of football - unless we could guarantee every club carrying on and no-one folding

Polska legend II wrote:

so to recap, play offs are not viable in this level of football - unless we could guarantee every club carrying on and no-one folding

I think that would be the case....my opinion anyway.....playoffs would be pointless....unless all clubs were honest about their playing ability and they stuck around, you cannot guarantee the consistency of strength in each division

Correct. We are a bloody good league but we are not at that level yet!