On the line handball?

Simple really, attacker shoots, defender handles it on the line but it goes in anyway, what should happen?

Goal

Yea, any punishment for the defender?

Not if I was the referee - did not deny a goalscoring opportunity because the goal was scored.

As I thought, another shocking decision today then!

Why - was the defender sent off?

Yea straight red + goal given

the player will have a right to appeal against a ban,,,depending what the report says,,,,as he didnt deny a goal,,,have known some referees who wil caution and allow the goal,,or as gordon says allow the goal and let that be it

man in black wrote:

the player will have a right to appeal against a ban,,,depending what the report says,,,,as he didnt deny a goal,,,have known some referees who wil caution and allow the goal,,or as gordon says allow the goal and let that be it

so then 30 quid back or do the league still want it to build the summer holiday fund

nothing to do with the league,,,,,this wil be county fa matter,,,they will send a form out and the player returns the form asking for a personal hearing,,,,,,i think there is a fee to pay but if he wins his case he gets all monies back

greeeedy wrote:

man in black wrote:

the player will have a right to appeal against a ban,,,depending what the report says,,,,as he didnt deny a goal,,,have known some referees who wil caution and allow the goal,,or as gordon says allow the goal and let that be it

so then 30 quid back or do the league still want it to build the summer holiday fund

You struck a cord there. Nothing to do with the League - IT IS A COUNTY MATTER!. And thanks to the FA, next season there will only be an appeal if there is video evidence or its a case of mistaken identity. This League and the County have protested to no avail. Most other leagues said very little if anything.

Assistant Secretary wrote:

greeeedy wrote:

man in black wrote:

the player will have a right to appeal against a ban,,,depending what the report says,,,,as he didnt deny a goal,,,have known some referees who wil caution and allow the goal,,or as gordon says allow the goal and let that be it

so then 30 quid back or do the league still want it to build the summer holiday fund

You struck a cord there. Nothing to do with the League - IT IS A COUNTY MATTER!. And thanks to the FA, next season there will only be an appeal if there is video evidence or its a case of mistaken identity. This League and the County have protested to no avail. Most other leagues said very little if anything.

i see my bad just wondered if money would get returned if found to be in the right cheers for the clear up dennis.
ps how is the holiday kitty looking anyway anyroom for 1 more

The Ref would be in his rights to give a yellow card for deliberate handball but not a red,i would hope most Refs would use common sense and just get on with the game without a card

Yea you would hope, unfortunately today he didn't! Also giving a penalty when he said our keeper was first to the ball but the striker fell over his kicking leg was the icing on the cake. Shame really he ruined a good game completely, hope he is happy!

We will be employing someone to video the games next season to protect denty and scouse!

so now a team must provide a linesman and a camcorder man each week

greeeedy wrote:

Assistant Secretary wrote:

greeeedy wrote:

man in black wrote:

the player will have a right to appeal against a ban,,,depending what the report says,,,,as he didnt deny a goal,,,have known some referees who wil caution and allow the goal,,or as gordon says allow the goal and let that be it

so then 30 quid back or do the league still want it to build the summer holiday fund

You struck a cord there. Nothing to do with the League - IT IS A COUNTY MATTER!. And thanks to the FA, next season there will only be an appeal if there is video evidence or its a case of mistaken identity. This League and the County have protested to no avail. Most other leagues said very little if anything.

i see my bad just wondered if money would get returned if found to be in the right cheers for the clear up dennis.
ps how is the holiday kitty looking anyway anyroom for 1 more

yes, money is returned if appeals are successful.

Hellboy wrote:

contest it through the powers that be.

Dont worry I will be contesting it! The ref was positive it was still a straight red because I handled deliberately! Absolute joke. I hope he realised his mistake and decided not send the report in, save everyone time and him embarrassment of having to stand in front of me at appeal

Not sending a report usually results in a fine and suspension for the ref. Incidentally, a player or club official asking a ref to not submit a report has the same result for the player /official.

Assistant Secretary wrote:

Not sending a report usually results in a fine and suspension for the ref. Incidentally, a player or club official asking a ref to not submit a report has the same result for the player /official.

Well guess I'll see him at appeal then because unless he puts in a falsified report he hasn't got a leg to stand on

LCFCHOTSHOT wrote:

Assistant Secretary wrote:

Not sending a report usually results in a fine and suspension for the ref. Incidentally, a player or club official asking a ref to not submit a report has the same result for the player /official.

Well guess I'll see him at appeal then because unless he puts in a falsified report he hasn't got a leg to stand on

in a diplomatic manner.....

Gordon wrote:

Not if I was the referee - did not deny a goalscoring opportunity because the goal was scored.

I do disagree with this. The player should still see red as the INTENTIONS are there to cheat. Does this not come under sportsmanship and fair play?

LCFCHOTSHOT wrote:

Assistant Secretary wrote:

Not sending a report usually results in a fine and suspension for the ref. Incidentally, a player or club official asking a ref to not submit a report has the same result for the player /official.

Well guess I'll see him at appeal then because unless he puts in a falsified report he hasn't got a leg to stand on

Personal opinion, I do think you will lose the appeal as everyone I know that has appealed has never won. Hope that it's not a case of guilty no matter what but best of luck

Expensive an appeal these days dan! Good luck though mate

unsporting and fair play are not sending off offences unless you get cautioned twice,,,this would be for denying a goal,,,which didnt happen

EJT09 wrote:

LCFCHOTSHOT wrote:

Assistant Secretary wrote:

Not sending a report usually results in a fine and suspension for the ref. Incidentally, a player or club official asking a ref to not submit a report has the same result for the player /official.

Well guess I'll see him at appeal then because unless he puts in a falsified report he hasn't got a leg to stand on

Personal opinion, I do think you will lose the appeal as everyone I know that has appealed has never won. Hope that it's not a case of guilty no matter what but best of luck

No need for an appeal, I have had a phone call from the ref with a sincere apology for his mistake and that no further action will be taken. Credit to him for that but still cost us the game and a much needed 3 points that are now gone.

Just to clarify this - the referee has reported the sending off to the County FA in the normal manner, but also explained that, on reflection, he believes his decision was incorrect in law.

Accordingly the County FA have advised the club that no disciplinary charge will be raised.

LCFCHOTSHOT wrote:

EJT09 wrote:

LCFCHOTSHOT wrote:

Assistant Secretary wrote:

Not sending a report usually results in a fine and suspension for the ref. Incidentally, a player or club official asking a ref to not submit a report has the same result for the player /official.

Well guess I'll see him at appeal then because unless he puts in a falsified report he hasn't got a leg to stand on

Personal opinion, I do think you will lose the appeal as everyone I know that has appealed has never won. Hope that it's not a case of guilty no matter what but best of luck

No need for an appeal, I have had a phone call from the ref with a sincere apology for his mistake and that no further action will be taken. Credit to him for that but still cost us the game and a much needed 3 points that are now gone.

Your bank account will appreciate that

EJT09 wrote:

LCFCHOTSHOT wrote:

EJT09 wrote:

LCFCHOTSHOT wrote:

Assistant Secretary wrote:

Not sending a report usually results in a fine and suspension for the ref. Incidentally, a player or club official asking a ref to not submit a report has the same result for the player /official.

Well guess I'll see him at appeal then because unless he puts in a falsified report he hasn't got a leg to stand on

Personal opinion, I do think you will lose the appeal as everyone I know that has appealed has never won. Hope that it's not a case of guilty no matter what but best of luck

No need for an appeal, I have had a phone call from the ref with a sincere apology for his mistake and that no further action will be taken. Credit to him for that but still cost us the game and a much needed 3 points that are now gone.

Your bank account will appreciate that

Exactly!

Wow, referees can admit they're wrong in a report?
I thought it was a case of what happened on the pitch was reported.

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dan_mitchell_WRFC wrote:

Wow, referees can admit they're wrong in a report?
I thought it was a case of what happened on the pitch was reported.

I was always under the assumption that the ref was always right no matter what! Maybe it's a stepping stone for most refs to follow in the footsteps

Top work by all concerned. All human, all make mistakes.

Not all of us.

Whistle Blower wrote:

Not all of us.

i never made 1 yet

I meant human...

Whistle Blower wrote:

I meant human...

oh right i made 2 of them both girls proper bloke

even chimps know how to make love....

Hellboy wrote:

even chimps know how to make love....

Does Hellboy make love or war, or can they not tell the difference?

dan_mitchell_WRFC wrote:

Wow, referees can admit they're wrong in a report?
I thought it was a case of what happened on the pitch was reported.

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What happened on the pitch was correctly reported.

He added that, on reflection, his decision made on the pitch, was incorrect in law