| Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves | |
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+24Moderator ben tumar vet talbotkeeper Paulo Tubby NRI alliance no1 sean callaghan Old Iron bumble WEUR dezza gattuso dave ash mthompson08 Plough new boy Ramley_LBFC LCFCHOTSHOT THE MAGICIAN Polska legend II Hellboy Aussie Owl LoneRanger38 Gordon 28 posters |
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Gordon Premiership Poster
| Subject: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 6:58 pm | |
| Following mounting speculation on the forum, it is with regret that I can now advise you that West End United and West End United Reserves have both resigned with immediate effect.
Their playing records will be removed from D4 and D6 respectively and the tables will be updated in due course.
All of the registered players will remain members of the club until the financial liabilities of the club have been discharged, either by the club or individually when the position is clarified.
They are not yet clear to register with or transfer to another Alliance Club.
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LoneRanger38 Non-League Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:15 pm | |
| Im GUTTED,great mates,great lads played with some of the players at leicester city youth level years ago,others i new from childhood and also having been a player last seasin for them,some quality talent and team spirit now lost just hope they re group next season,all the best masters | |
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Aussie Owl Super Premier Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:18 pm | |
| This means that there is a pitch available at Roundhill Community College which could accommodate 2 teams. If interested contact the College, quickly, and keep James informed. | |
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Hellboy Supreme Top Dog
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:30 pm | |
| - Assistant Secretary wrote:
- This means that there is a pitch available at Roundhill Community College which could accommodate 2 teams. If interested contact the College, quickly, and keep James informed.
What do you thinks happening? has the bad weather contributed to things or has the recession got anything to do with whats going on.seems such a shame, what with all the hard work people must have put in, just to get these teams up and running. And now so many are going under. | |
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Polska legend II Supreme Top Dog
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:34 pm | |
| that's only 3 so far this season (or 2 'clubs') which is probably below average compared to the last few seasons at this stage. Just hits harder as they been in successive days. But great shame to see them go as always seemed a good, well established club | |
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Hellboy Supreme Top Dog
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:37 pm | |
| Dont panic dont panic!!!mr Mainwaring, i do tend to panic very easily. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:39 pm | |
| Its a big shame for clubs to go, especially considering how hard teams work to set up in pre-season. I am surprised that both West End teams folded, seems odd that they couldnt put one team together between them, listening to WEUR on here i thought they were safe. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:40 pm | |
| - Hellboy wrote:
- Dont panic dont panic!!!mr Mainwaring, i do tend to panic very easily.
You stupid boy!!!! |
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THE MAGICIAN Division 1 Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:42 pm | |
| Sorry to see West end fold, hope to see the lads that wanted to carry on find teams in the very near future.
All the best for the future Mr Masters | |
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Hellboy Supreme Top Dog
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Aussie Owl Super Premier Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:46 pm | |
| - Polska legend II wrote:
- that's only 3 so far this season (or 2 'clubs') which is probably below average compared to the last few seasons at this stage. Just hits harder as they been in successive days. But great shame to see them go as always seemed a good, well established club
Agreed there were far more resignations before Christmas last season. These are the only ones this season so far - let's hope they are the last. As far as the reasons are concerned, it is the annual January blues. In my opinion some players seem to find it hard to get back into the weekly game following the Christmas break especially when the weather is uninviting. It is even worse when a team is out of all the cups and is not doing too well in the League - nothing to play for! in spite of their start of the season commitment. Why not simply play for the love of the game and a bit of banter between mates on a Sunday morning before enjoying a well earned pint or three? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:58 pm | |
| Just as a thought, why not set up an Invitation cup like the Leicester Sunday league, that way, teams that have nothing to play for (title, promotions or against relegation) can have a trophy, if you started it mid January you may have less folding? Its a tad annoying for teams that have played against those that folded, especially if you have paid for a pitch etc as that makes it difficult for your team financially....this isnt a pop at West End as we played them away so they actually made us a few bob...and not trying to seem unsympathetic, but NRI had major difficulties for players at one stage this season so we made massive efforts and lots of phone calls to bring players in...and we then got to a healthy stage where we had 16 turning up every week, its now 14 or 15 with a couple in reserve. The league will tell you that we have signed a lot of players on, probably about 28 or 29...where there is a will.... |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 7:59 pm | |
| [quote="Assistant Secretary"] - Polska legend II wrote:
- that's only 3 so far this season (or 2 'clubs') which is probably below average compared to the last few seasons at this stage. Just hits harder as they been in successive days. But great shame to see them go as always seemed a good, well established club
Agreed there were far more resignations before Christmas last season. These are the only ones this season so far - let's hope they are the last. As far as the reasons are concerned, it is the annual January blues. In my opinion some players seem to find it hard to get back into the weekly game following the Christmas break especially when the weather is uninviting. It is even worse when a team is out of all the cups and is not doing too well in the League - nothing to play for! in spite of their start of the season commitment. Why not simply play for the love of the game and a bit of banter between mates on a Sunday morning before enjoying a well earned pint or three?[/quote] Massively agree! I played in a crap team a few years ago and was so busy every week....but a plate of chips, some watery curry and a pint at the pub made it worth while! |
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THE MAGICIAN Division 1 Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:04 pm | |
| - Hellboy wrote:
- New Road Inn reserves
Blimey, Helly you wanna try managing this lot first, let alone having a reserve side. Am I thinking if one was set up you would want to manage it ? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:05 pm | |
| We are a joy to manage Malc lol |
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Gordon Premiership Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:08 pm | |
| - New Road Inn wrote:
- Just as a thought, why not set up an Invitation cup like the Leicester Sunday league, that way, teams that have nothing to play for (title, promotions or against relegation) can have a trophy, if you started it mid January you may have less folding?
Its a tad annoying for teams that have played against those that folded, especially if you have paid for a pitch etc as that makes it difficult for your team financially....this isnt a pop at West End as we played them away so they actually made us a few bob...and not trying to seem unsympathetic, but NRI had major difficulties for players at one stage this season so we made massive efforts and lots of phone calls to bring players in...and we then got to a healthy stage where we had 16 turning up every week, its now 14 or 15 with a couple in reserve. The league will tell you that we have signed a lot of players on, probably about 28 or 29...where there is a will.... Good thought - but with the bad weather and fixture back log - I really don't think another competition will help. It is tight to get all the League games in as it is. | |
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LCFCHOTSHOT
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:08 pm | |
| Really sorry to hear this. Had 2 good games already against the reserves this season, one league one cup, lost both aswell and they seemed a really good group of lads. Certainly be a loss for div 6 and were looking good for a promotion push too. | |
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Ramley_LBFC
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:12 pm | |
| Just a quick question to anyone who knows? We have played West End Ressies twice in Div 6 and won home and away. Does this mean we will lose our 6 points? I only ask as I know there are a couple of teams that lost home and away to them so if we lose 6 points because they folded, and other teams who lost to them lose nothing seems a tad unfair? Is that how it works or do we keep the points we have? | |
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Plough new boy Non-League Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:18 pm | |
| Devastated bad news for bowden prob not even top anymore let alone five points clear | |
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mthompson08
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:21 pm | |
| what a shame. played them twice andboth were very well contested close games. although cant speak for the 1st team, but the reserves were a great bunch of lads. its gona reshape div 6..thought little bowden at the top of the table was too good to be true!!! | |
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Ramley_LBFC
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:25 pm | |
| Looks like Bowden will then only be 1 point clear at the top. Seems so harsh. Teams that beat the folding team are losing out and effectively everyone else gains ground. Seems very "backwards" to me. And very unfair. | |
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Gordon Premiership Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:27 pm | |
| - Ramley_LBFC wrote:
- Just a quick question to anyone who knows? We have played West End Ressies twice in Div 6 and won home and away. Does this mean we will lose our 6 points? I only ask as I know there are a couple of teams that lost home and away to them so if we lose 6 points because they folded, and other teams who lost to them lose nothing seems a tad unfair? Is that how it works or do we keep the points we have?
All the results are deleted so yes, if you won twice that's 6 points gone. | |
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Ramley_LBFC
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:30 pm | |
| - Gordon wrote:
- Ramley_LBFC wrote:
- Just a quick question to anyone who knows? We have played West End Ressies twice in Div 6 and won home and away. Does this mean we will lose our 6 points? I only ask as I know there are a couple of teams that lost home and away to them so if we lose 6 points because they folded, and other teams who lost to them lose nothing seems a tad unfair? Is that how it works or do we keep the points we have?
All the results are deleted so yes, if you won twice that's 6 points gone.
Seems harsh. Surely the teams that won should keep their points, the teams that have not yet played the folding team should also get three points. But if you have already played the team and lost or drawn, you had your opportunity for three points and blew it so you should keep your result. Seems fair all round then?? | |
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dave ash Non-League Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:32 pm | |
| - Assistant Secretary wrote:
- Polska legend II wrote:
- that's only 3 so far this season (or 2 'clubs') which is probably below average compared to the last few seasons at this stage. Just hits harder as they been in successive days. But great shame to see them go as always seemed a good, well established club
Agreed there were far more resignations before Christmas last season. These are the only ones this season so far - let's hope they are the last.
As far as the reasons are concerned, it is the annual January blues. In my opinion some players seem to find it hard to get back into the weekly game following the Christmas break especially when the weather is uninviting. It is even worse when a team is out of all the cups and is not doing too well in the League - nothing to play for! in spite of their start of the season commitment. Why not simply play for the love of the game and a bit of banter between mates on a Sunday morning before enjoying a well earned pint or three? Thanks for the sympathy Dennis some of us did not have much choice, with the 1st team folding and us then being moved to div 4 which we thought was a bit unfair as none of the 1st team would be playing for the ressies. Also as the sec and and the treasurer both play in the first team and would not carry on till the end of the season we in the ressies had no choice but to resign. Nobody wants to to finish half way through the season and especially the ressies who i think still had a good chance of 1st or 2nd place in the league. | |
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Gordon Premiership Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:37 pm | |
| Some have played West End once, some twice, and some not at all.
How would you adjust the table for that? At the end of the season teams will have played a different number of games.
You can only be judged on how you fare against teams that last the distance.
Deleting the results places all teams in the same position - as if West End United Reserves, as far as D6 is concerned, didn't exist. | |
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Ramley_LBFC
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:41 pm | |
| - Gordon wrote:
- Some have played West End once, some twice, and some not at all.
How would you adjust the table for that? At the end of the season teams will have played a different number of games.
You can only be judged on how you fare against teams that last the distance.
Deleting the results places all teams in the same position - as if West End United Reserves, as far as D6 is concerned, didn't exist. But the gap for some teams has closed for the better which means this works to their favour, and some teams will slip back to real touching distnce meaning it is to their detriment. Example being Little Bowden. They may stay first, but rather than having a 6 point lead it will be down to 1 or none. Meaning one loss and they are off the top, whereas 6 points clear they had breathing space. I'm not trying to cause a fuss. Rules are rules but it seems odd that's all. | |
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Hellboy Supreme Top Dog
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:44 pm | |
| Nice to see a few sympathetic posts. | |
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gattuso Division 1 Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:46 pm | |
| Always been like this... Get over it and just go play football! All the best to the west end players who carry on playing in the alliance league | |
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Ramley_LBFC
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 8:50 pm | |
| - gattuso wrote:
- Always been like this... Get over it and just go play football! All the best to the west end players who carry on playing in the alliance league
Its not about "getting over it" - its about the true representation of how the league should look. Please dont get me wrong, I am really sorry to see West End leave the league. They were by far the best team we have played against all season. Made us work really hard for the three points at home and to be fair we probably only deserved a draw. They have some quality players and I am sure those who love the game will go on to other teams soon to those teams benefit. However, these forums are here to have these kinds of discussions though are they not? | |
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LCFCHOTSHOT
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 9:07 pm | |
| - Ramley_LBFC wrote:
- gattuso wrote:
- Always been like this... Get over it and just go play football! All the best to the west end players who carry on playing in the alliance league
Its not about "getting over it" - its about the true representation of how the league should look. Please dont get me wrong, I am really sorry to see West End leave the league. They were by far the best team we have played against all season. Made us work really hard for the three points at home and to be fair we probably only deserved a draw.
They have some quality players and I am sure those who love the game will go on to other teams soon to those teams benefit.
However, these forums are here to have these kinds of discussions though are they not? Deleting them is by far the fairest way! As Gordon put it just makes it as if they didnt exist in the league. Your way of giving teams 3 points if they havent played them is far more unfair than taking them out. Just think of the games you played against them as friendlies! And I agree they were a good side, they beat us, but how are they the best you played? We turned you over 3-0! | |
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Ramley_LBFC
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 9:10 pm | |
| Coming from a player from the team that they beat home, away and in the cup....... | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 9:24 pm | |
| If west end reserves can keep going if they stay in bottom division can a case not be made for that? I don't mind if west end reserves don't get pushed up? Oh and you can't give teams 3 points if they haven't played a team. Only way to sort it is delete all results and learn to win every game lol |
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LCFCHOTSHOT
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dezza Championship Poster
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dezza Championship Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 9:54 pm | |
| - Gordon wrote:
- New Road Inn wrote:
- Just as a thought, why not set up an Invitation cup like the Leicester Sunday league, that way, teams that have nothing to play for (title, promotions or against relegation) can have a trophy, if you started it mid January you may have less folding?
Its a tad annoying for teams that have played against those that folded, especially if you have paid for a pitch etc as that makes it difficult for your team financially....this isnt a pop at West End as we played them away so they actually made us a few bob...and not trying to seem unsympathetic, but NRI had major difficulties for players at one stage this season so we made massive efforts and lots of phone calls to bring players in...and we then got to a healthy stage where we had 16 turning up every week, its now 14 or 15 with a couple in reserve. The league will tell you that we have signed a lot of players on, probably about 28 or 29...where there is a will.... Good thought - but with the bad weather and fixture back log - I really don't think another competition will help. It is tight to get all the League games in as it is. could it not be played in midweek instead of the current midweek football league games as this invitation cup would be precisely the teams the league wanted to give a chance of playing at the big grounds??? | |
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WEUR
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 9:57 pm | |
| I would like to take this opportunity to apologise on all the west end ressies behalf to all the clubs this affects, also to the league for the disruption, we have/had a great bunch of lads at the club and nobody wanted this to happen, however being moved up to division 4 was 1 factor as the 1st team players werent that keen on carrying on playing, another huge factor was finding a new secretary and treasurer which we have found extremely hard. Im sure that most of the reserve players will move on to new clubs and hopefully make an impact in doing so. Thanks for all the comments wishing us well, nice to know what teams thought of us. | |
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bumble
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:00 pm | |
| Seems a shame that the ressies can't continue like NRI stated - especially if they don't play/or haven't played any 1st teamers. Havn't seen any teams play from Div6 but looks from the outside like a competitive league. Always seems unfair on the lads who still wanna play when any 1st team folds and there fixtures take priority. Rules are rules, just a shame there can't be any flexability shame they can't ask the club secs in Div 6 to help make a decision. | |
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Old Iron
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:29 pm | |
| - bumble wrote:
- Seems a shame that the ressies can't continue like NRI stated - especially if they don't play/or haven't played any 1st teamers. Havn't seen any teams play from Div6 but looks from the outside like a competitive league. Always seems unfair on the lads who still wanna play when any 1st team folds and there fixtures take priority. Rules are rules, just a shame there can't be any flexability shame they can't ask the club secs in Div 6 to help make a decision.
As a West End Ressies player (now ex) and knowing how gutted a number of our team are, I think it's something the league should look at carefully in future to avoid a similar situation happening again where a reserve side is potentially forced to fold as a result of having to step up a few divisions and losing players as a result. Perhaps looking at it on a case by case basis would help eg. How strong the ressies are (league position) / how many 1st teamers might drop down etc, before insisting that they move up a few divisions. I'm sure a similar thing is done pre-season when the make up of the divisions is put together and teams are pushed up a few leagues, so why not discuss during the season and hopefully avoid additional disruption to other teams / divisions? Saying that, as Lee has pointed out losing a Treasurer and Secretary was also a key factor with us and there's not much the league can do about that.... A sad day as we had a decent group of lads and a decent side for the respective division....so fingers crossed we'll all get sorted out elsewhere. Alex | |
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sean callaghan
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:42 pm | |
| I DO AGREE WITH MOST ON HERE REAL SHAME TO SEE A TEAM FOLD BUT WILL HELP WITH THE BACK LOG ANY MORE OUT THERE THAT ARE LOOKING TO FOLD | |
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Plough new boy Non-League Poster
| Subject: Re: Resignation - West End United and West End United Reserves Wed 12 Jan 2011, 10:42 pm | |
| All the best to the ressies lads good bunch. Don't be joining that revolution down at hood park though. It's me I feel sorry for in all this my only goal took away from me . Oh yeah and Matt thompsons only two goals. Ha ha. | |
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