law 4- Players equipment

How many players played with different coloured tape ect on socks this sunday?

Refs, are you being strict on this law?

Players, are you happy with this law?

I know a couple of fosse lads got away with it sunday

from what I've gathered the rule applies but its really down to ref digression. Its a silly law thats came down from FIFA and was voted to be enforced at all levels of football so its not really up for debate.

True

Its not upto the referees disgression though, its a law of the game, its like saying a punch to the face is not a sending off because its down to referees disgression. Just wandered if the laws of the game were being enforced by all refrerees.

According to Jeff Stelling on Soccer saturday last weekend FIFA have urged the rule not to be strictly enforced at grass roots level. Your lucky if a team manages to wear the same colour socks.

at this level I believe its digression based but obviously as you go higher up it becomes a very strictly enforced thing. We had 2 ref so far whi haven't bothered with it.... whether they should have or not is a different matter

Whilst it is a law and you would be wise to follow it to prevent any situations occuring, i would hope that refs will use common sense. I cant imagine that too many Sunday league players need split second perfect peripheral vision to play their game...sober and un-blurred would be a start for vision!!

Capello wrote:

How many players played with different coloured tape ect on socks this sunday?

Refs, are you being strict on this law?

Players, are you happy with this law?

I know a couple of fosse lads got away with it sunday

The Ref in this game used his disgression on this law of the game it's a shame he didn't where the subs were concerned !!

Can we all please spell it discretion

Thanks for the many many replies, i would like to see some consistency in applying the laws of the game. Why should a referee be able to use his discretion on this law when he/she should be showing authority if you like?

agree to an extent, but also think grass roots football needs a certain amount of common sense, and by proxy discretion. If a ref does allow a player to use the wrong colour tape, perhaps that gains him more respect than if he or she sticks to the letter of the law?

Depends if he's being assessed...

Sparta3 wrote:

Depends if he's being assessed...

I disagree,

The rules are rules and should be applied by all, all of the time or none, none of the time.

I don't buy the common sence thing, when a player calls a referee a flucking wlanker should the referee use common sence.and accept the players just angry?

i think that is on a different level to wearing different colour tape. What harm Will be done if a player wears blue instead of white tape? swearing at a ref or dangerous tackles are more serious and should be punished by strict letter of the law. just my opinion

A County FA directive has stated that it is a law of the game and must be applied. Discretionary it is not

All referees have been issued with the Law amendments which includes this tape issue.

I accept consistency between referees at our level may sometimes be lacking - and not merely in this area.

However I have reminded Club Secretaries, only yesterday of the requirement, as it has already been raised to the League in some match reports

Tape on socks - you are reminded that 'if tape or similar material is applied externally it must be the same colour as that part of the sock it is applied to'. - I am aware that some referees have requested players to make this adjustment.

Like the colour of undergarments being the same as the shorts or shirts, I am sure it will soon catch on.

Sepp Blatter obviously owns a sock tape company and needs to shifts some old stock!

Widds wrote:

agree to an extent, but also think grass roots football needs a certain amount of common sense, and by proxy discretion. If a ref does allow a player to use the wrong colour tape, perhaps that gains him more respect than if he or she sticks to the letter of the law?

I would have to agree here, if you get a ref whos picky about everythin they won't get the respect of the players as quickly or as easily. A ref who lets a few minor things slide will have a much easier game than 1 who picks at everything... just my opinion tho I suppose

Flip it the other way, if a referee upholds these "minor" rules you are more likely to pay attention to him during the match as you know he isn't afraid to apply the rules correctly (or potentially strictly).

Much like [insert referee's name] who is "card happy". You know he's going to use the rules so you make the extra effort to abide by them.

When you get a referee who "shows common sense" or "discretion" you are more likely to test the boundaries.

personally I always have green tape on green socks or black on black so it doesn't bother me... everyone I've spoken to agrees its a bit of a strange thing to bring in, rule or not people are gonna test the boundaries anyway, its in our nature!

littlebigman wrote:

Capello wrote:

How many players played with different coloured tape ect on socks this sunday?

Refs, are you being strict on this law?

Players, are you happy with this law?

I know a couple of fosse lads got away with it sunday

The Ref in this game used his disgression on this law of the game it's a shame he didn't where the subs were concerned !!

A little bird tells me you had a bit of a shocker on Saturday?

i have told our lads but some are using up existing tape from last season. Sure when they buy replacement tape it Will be colour coordinated

Hellboy wrote:

littlebigman wrote:

Capello wrote:

How many players played with different coloured tape ect on socks this sunday?

Refs, are you being strict on this law?

Players, are you happy with this law?

I know a couple of fosse lads got away with it sunday

The Ref in this game used his disgression on this law of the game it's a shame he didn't where the subs were concerned !!

A little bird tells me you had a bit of a shocker on Saturday?

Had a very good game but thats my opinion and the Assessors who gave me a well deserved 79 so perhaps the little bird should just stick to picking up worms !!!!

Widds wrote:

i have told our lads but some are using up existing tape from last season. Sure when they buy replacement tape it Will be colour coordinated

Times are hard eh Widds?

don't want anything getting in the way of them paying subs lol

littlebigman wrote:

Hellboy wrote:

littlebigman wrote:

Capello wrote:

How many players played with different coloured tape ect on socks this sunday?

Refs, are you being strict on this law?

Players, are you happy with this law?

I know a couple of fosse lads got away with it sunday

The Ref in this game used his disgression on this law of the game it's a shame he didn't where the subs were concerned !!

A little bird tells me you had a bit of a shocker on Saturday?

Had a very good game but thats my opinion and the Assessors who gave me a well deserved 79 so perhaps the little bird should just stick to picking up worms !!!!

Fair enough, just that i was told you were very inconsistant, particularly when an ap player swore at you after they were tackled badly and you didnt blow, and then you decided to stop flowing play and awarded a free kick to the other side after sometime, and brought play all the way back from Basfords end (because of the swearing), and Basford went on to score, its the first time ive ever come across that one being put in to use, and when Basford players swore at you, you didnt give the ball to ap, just wondered if you had any comment and could explain why one side gets awarded a free kick for the other team swearing but not the other. I think you should have let the ball go out of play before you made the decision, as that could have been a goal scoring chance for ap. Plus the ap player got booked but the basford player who did the dirty tackle didnt, sounds wrong to me.

Hellboy wrote:

littlebigman wrote:

Hellboy wrote:

littlebigman wrote:

Capello wrote:

How many players played with different coloured tape ect on socks this sunday?

Refs, are you being strict on this law?

Players, are you happy with this law?

I know a couple of fosse lads got away with it sunday

The Ref in this game used his disgression on this law of the game it's a shame he didn't where the subs were concerned !!

A little bird tells me you had a bit of a shocker on Saturday?

Had a very good game but thats my opinion and the Assessors who gave me a well deserved 79 so perhaps the little bird should just stick to picking up worms !!!!

Fair enough, just that i was told you were very inconsistant, particularly when an ap player swore at you after they were tackled badly and you didnt blow, and then you decided to stop flowing play and awarded a free kick to the other side after sometime, and brought play all the way back from Basfords end (because of the swearing), and Basford went on to score, its the first time ive ever come across that one being put in to use, and when Basford players swore at you, you didnt give the ball to ap, just wondered if you had any comment and could explain why one side gets awarded a free kick for the other team swearing but not the other. I think you should have let the ball go out of play before you made the decision, as that could have been a goal scoring chance for ap. Plus the ap player got booked but the basford player who did the dirty tackle didnt, sounds wrong to me.

sounds very wrong to me as well but youve got the wrong person i'm afraid trying heading a bit further south for my game

I got told it was you, soz about the confusion.

I''l try, ap were on the edge of their own area, comming out of their 18yd box, just as they crossed over the 18 yd line, someone kicked one of ap's defenders and brought him down bad, the defender starts swearing, and carries on swearing, play carried on for a few seconds ap are now in basfords half, ref then blows as ap are on the attack and stops play, ball awarded to basford, and brought back to where the defender has been fouled...blah blah, basford go on to score from that indirect free kick, and it sort of changed the game, surely if the play was going on up the other end by this time, he should have waited for the ball to go out of play, and then sort out the cards?

Hellboy wrote:

I''l try, ap were on the edge of their own area, comming out of their 18yd box, just as they crossed over the 18 yd line, someone kicked one of ap's defenders and brought him down bad, the defender starts swearing, and carries on swearing, play carried on for a few seconds ap are now in basfords half, ref then blows as ap are on the attack and stops play, ball awarded to basford, and brought back to where the defender has been fouled...blah blah, basford go on to score from that indirect free kick, and it sort of changed the game, surely if the play was going on up the other end by this time, he should have waited for the ball to go out of play, and then sort out the cards?

Difficult for me to be accurate tbh, but Refs would generally allow the ball to go out of play thats what i would try and do but did he stop play to caution the player because he may have carried on and then ended up with red? how many bookings/reds were there in this top 2 game?

...i see your point, but he didnt let the ball go out of play, yes he might have got a red if he'd have carried on who knows, but i still think the flow of the game should have been left alone, at least till the ball went out of play, to bring the ball back to their 18 yd box seems a bit wrong.

my heads starting to hurt.